>> Well, I'd say the biggest thing about the mediation program is that it's so hands-on. I mean yeah, everything, everything we did is learning by doing. And that's just an experience that you, you don't get elsewhere. You don't get that in a classroom studying case law, or you know, the business you know the, like all the business statutes.
You don't get that kind of learning. And really the best way that we learn is by doing.
>> For the first, semester we're learning mediation skills ourselves. So we're in the seminar, twice a week. I think it's a three hour period. It's kind of like an intensive. We learn everything that Lianne wants us to know about mediation.
And then when we teach it to the students, basically we're teaching them the same skills at their own level.
>> I was thrown a wicked curve-ball, because I was really cool and calm about it at the beginning, and then when I started doing the actual work. It was networking.
You had to go into the community that I had no ties to. I don't know anybody here. And I had to build relationships with people. And I thought, okay you know, I'm a likeable guy. I can walk in there. In one meeting, you know? In twenty minutes, everyone's gonna love me.
I went to meetings after meetings, and these were two, three, four hour meetings, and, you know, you couldn't even plan for them.
>> Where at the mediation clinic it's, was focused in on dialog, but also negotiation and compromising and, building programs, and, getting things established. Which I think is much more reflective of the real world, what you have to do outside of law school.
But it's still grounds the theory, of legal analysis as well as, as well as negotiation or client counseling skills, or mediation skills.
>> We just did as many hands on projects as we could. So we would teach them, inner conflict this is how to speak, and it's called, it's an exercise called Speak to Be Heard.
Basically it's a template on how to speak, so they would practice it with partners. We taught them about identifying the issues. They would read newspaper articles and find the issues in the newspaper articles and try and tell it to the class. Sounds really simple, but when you're teaching it to elementary students it gets, it gets pretty complicated.
We also taught them a bit of negotiation. We put tape on the floor and you have to convince your counterpart to cross over to your side. And if they crossed you would get a thousand dollars, if you crossed the would get a thousand dollars. And really the point of the game was, if you guys thought about it for a moment.
If you just switch sides, both, we get a thousand dollars. But, I think maybe in the entire class, one kid figured it out, and because it was, because Jameel helped him.
>> I prefer to learn from somebody who's done it, and has been out there, and is not just gonna say, well, they tell you to do it on page 35, so you should it on what, what page 35 says.
I respect experience. You know, knowledge and experience are two important things but I, I, I do feel that someone who has the knowledge and has the experience, such as Leanne,you know is, you know, amazing with what she does. And she's able to bring us all together and show us.
And when we sit down and we have mediations in class, she'll jump in real quick and be like, okay, well this is what you probably should, should be doing as a mediator. Use the questions that you, you should be answer. She'll stop and then jump back and let us go, go right back to it, you know?